To Obscure, make Private or leave your observation Public/Open?

iNaturalist allows a user to select 1 of 3 options to display the level of information and accuracy available to others as to the location of an observation.

Public/Open
This setting allows a user to accurately show where the observation was taken. You can put the pin exactly on a tree and someone could use the co-ordinates to find the precise spot. Everyone can see the true coordinates.
Example: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/37272937

Obscured
This setting allows a user to hide the accuracy of an observation. Some things we just know must not be shown to the public.
Example: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/15488531
A user will see a random point within a 0.2 by 0.2-degree area that contains the true coordinates. This area works out to about a 22 by 22-kilometre area at the equator.
The randomized public coordinates appear within the rectangle as a circular marker without a stem. True coordinates are only visible to you, trusted users, and trusted project curators.

Just a note about projects. If the location is obscured and you add it to a traditional project the coordinates may be displayed to the curators of the project. So, check your options when you join the project. This only applies to Traditional projects. Not Collection or Umbrella projects.

Private
This setting allows a user to totally block any indication as to where the observation was taken.
Example: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43105311
A user will not even see a map to indicate if it was taken on planet Earth, or Mars.

So, what to use when?

Under general observations you would use the Public/Open option. This would allow any other user to re-visit the site to verify the observation, or for researchers needing distribution etc.

Rare or endangered species are automatically obscured by the system, so there is no need for you to select it. Go and check any Rhino observation and you will see that it is not accurate. You could still select the obscured option to double make sure it is hidden.
However, not all our sensitive/Red Data plant species are automatically obscured. There are plants/insects, sought after for some reason (traditional use, horticulture, to trade in, just to be collected, because they are pretty, because they are accessible etc etc). Bulbs, honey-bush, many succulents fall in this category. Remote vs access makes a difference, though collectors climb scary mountains to collect interesting insects - they sell and trade with these. If it your aim to protect something because of these reasons, then do feel free to obscure.
Why, well the system still needs to be updated.

Private, well actually I can not think of any reason to make it Private. Let me know if you have a valid reason.

If you have taken an observation at your house, and do not want everyone to know exactly where you stay. Instead of pinning your house, select your street, or suburb. Or a close by road intersection. Then set the accuracy to display a circle that includes your home. Now you are saying it is in that area, but somewhere in the circle.
Example: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/41298990
This will prevent a grass patch displayed out at sea.

We can not prescribe. Only help you to make your own decision.

See more on the iNaturalist help page under Observations, point 8.
https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/help#geoprivacy

Posted on April 26, 2020 02:54 PM by shauns shauns

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I use "private" for observations at a site I plan to take students to make their own observations, so I don't bias them, or overwhelm them with observations before they have a chance to make their own. After the course/workshop/project, I change geoprivacy to 'open'.

Posted by susanfawcett about 1 year ago

Ive had a reasonable look but cant find an answer to this question. Im wondering if any location information is stored with the PRIVATE setting cf OBSCURED where a precise location is stored but only available to trusted rather than general users?

Posted by wildoh9999 11 months ago

@wildoh9999
Good day
If I understand your question correctly.
All information is stored with the observation. Just obscured to a 3rd party user.
You can create a project, and a user who joins the project can then indicate that they trust the owner of the project and then the coordinates are visible to the project owner as well.
@tonyrebelo
Regards

Posted by shauns 11 months ago

There is no real reason to every obscure an observation. All species threatened by collecting/poaching/harvesting are automatically obscured. If you disagree that a species should be obscured (and to qualify it must be threatened - with a Red List category, and it must be a collectable/poachable - not threatened by habitat loss or aliens or fire or climate change or habitat degradation: which as a rule dont use iNaturalist too much) then please raise it with the Sensitive Species list: at http://nssl.sanbi.org.za/

There is no point in posting private observations: they are useless. The coordinates are on iNaturalist, but are accessible as nowhere (obscured observations show up on a 20km grid, so are accessible by municipality, province, country).
@susanfawcett presents a very interesting temporary reason for doing so. The problem is that they dont show up on any country or place searches, so they will probably never be identified, and they can never be research grade and thus useful to anyone.

Obscured information is stored, but hidden. It is available to SANBI staff biennielly for Red List and Research purposes, but this only applies after we have become a community. At this stage we dont get these dumps so cannot access these data.
It is available if you trust someone (not recommended, but an example might be the landowner - assuming you trust them not to eradicate them for developments), or if you trust the curators of a project (we recommend that you use Habitats, CREW and RedList projects for these: before trusting any other project please carefully check the credentials of all the curators, and report any suspicious people to SANBI).
Valid reasons for manually obscuring an observation is because it will allow an auto-obscured species to be located (e.g. a bird observation pollinating a threatened species), or because the land-owner places such a restriction on the data collection (but try and convince them that it is counterproductive as they wont be able to use iNaturalist to get a checklist for their farm, as the observations wont display for the farm), or because you may be liable for costs if your observation affects the value of a locality (e.g. aliens decreasing the value of a property for sale, threatened species threatening a development). Unacceptable reasons that people use may include hiding trespassing incursions, observations of illegal activities, or personal information (e.g. home gardens - some people hide them, others create projects to showcase them, but most people dont even think about it).
Obscuring is a two-edge sword. It hides localities from potential poachers, but it also hides it from those who might look after, monitor, manage it: poachers dont only use iNaturalist to get localities, they also use it to find out which localities are unknown and therefore safer to poach. It also means a delay in conservation authorities (researchers, planners, EIA consultants, reserve managers) accessing data as they have to obtain if from SANBI via the twice a year dumps, or from one of the three curated projects designed for this (CREW, Habitat, Redlist).

Whatever you do, never put a false locality. Apart from the conservation implications: a useless piece of land may be protected or purchased to conserve something that does not occur there - but more importantly, the actual locality may be approved for development because there are no records there, or a researcher may spend valuable time trying to find the population for sampling or studying, or it may change the Red Listing status for the species by adding incorrect population and location data; it is also unethical and may result your being disbarred from using iNaturalist.

There is a grey area of adding imprecise data (with a high Location Error), but that is not useful if you wish your data to be used to help protect and conserve a species. Imprecise data are usually discarded by most serious studies requiring accurate data: the more precise your data (even if obscured), the more useful it is for authorities, researchers and conservation officials. The app allows a 5-10m accuracy for the locality, which is ideal for almost all uses of data.
Localities without an error (stored under "Accuracy", and shown as a circle around the peg on the web version map) are treated as dubious, and you will sooner or later get a message to please fix your localities that dont have the error recorded. It is important not to over-state your accuracy: if you dont know exactly where you were, then put in an appropriately large location error (=Accuracy).

Posted by tonyrebelo 11 months ago

Thanks for all that - I’m still not sure if the precise location gets stores on the system with the PRIVATE category ( ie like the OBSCURED) - but in any case I cant see much use for the PRIVATE setting - maybe OBSCURED is useful if you don't trust the list of species subject to collecting/ harvesting etc. e.g there is a local pressure/issue.

Posted by wildoh9999 11 months ago

It is easy enough to test. Simply make an observation of yours private: YOU can still see the locality: just no one else on earth. Then make it open again and it reappears. So the precise location is stored, it is just not hidden to 22km as with obscure, but to nowhere if you private it.

Posted by tonyrebelo 11 months ago
if you don't trust the list of species subject to collecting/ harvesting

Then report it on the Sensitive Species site. http://nssl.sanbi.org.za/ It might not make a sensitive species for various reasons (most often because although harvested it is not a significant threat), but at least those who should know will know that there is a potential threat.
Dont forget, that it wont help if you hide a locality on iNat and the herbaria and publiations are just providing it willynilly. If there is a legitimate concern, ALL the localities across all the institutions and web sites must also obscure it. You are our eyes and ears: dont pretend you dont know and become secretive: you will be merely aiding and abetting the poachers.

Report havesting and poaching - your nearest Cape Nature or SANParks office is the best place to start.
If you want to do it on iNaturalist, then use this project: https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/illegal-harvesting-s-afr

the authorities do monitor this project.

Posted by tonyrebelo 11 months ago

Thanks - thats clear ( and having worked as ‘ one of the authorities’ for 40 years I have a good knowledge of how imperfect the system of regulating is).

Posted by wildoh9999 11 months ago

Regulating is not the same as data management. Data management is imminently solvable, provided that people report any bugs in the system and provide data to keep it up to date, and that the authorities want to have it fixed.
Of course, the big question is whether the authorities with access to the secure data can be trusted ...

Posted by tonyrebelo 11 months ago

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