Heads up: Some or all of the identifications affected by this split may have been replaced with identifications of Brachycephaloidea. This happens when we can't automatically assign an identification to one of the output taxa. Review identifications of Craugastoridae 64732

Taxonomic Split 98550 (Committed on 2021-09-17)

Several families split off

Amphibian Species of the World 6.0 (Citation)
Added by loarie on September 18, 2021 05:29 AM | Committed by loarie on September 17, 2021
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Dear Laurie,
Are you confident this is the right taxonomic split at the right time? You cite as justification "Amphibian Species of the World 6.0 (Citation)", but that database reports almost all previous studies, many of which disagree with each other, so I am not clear on your motivation here. When I look up Craugastoridae in 'ASW' it seems to cite Padial et al. 2014 for this (or?), which may be a tad dated at this point. A very recent look at this question is our paper Barrientos et al. (2021) here:
http://dna.ac/PDFs/Barrientos&l_21_phylogenomics_terraranan_frogs_UCE_2665%20loci.pdf
that suggests Craugastoridae takes precedence over Strabomantidae. Our Fig. 1 summarizes the last 11 molecular phylogenetic studies of families within Terraranae, which shows just how unstable these results may be, sure enough, e.g., Hime et al. (2021) disagreeing with Hutter et al. (2017). So, I certainly could be wrong, but I think recognizing Strabomantidae might not be the be option at this time. Or why do you feel it is the best option?

Posted by crawfordaj over 2 years ago

we try to follow ASW for amphibian taxonomy - I recommend you contact them (FYI @dfrost) to discuss various viewpoints. Its possible you can get them to return to Craugastoridae sensu lato or if you build up a strong consensus here we can always deviate. However, our philosophy is to follow eternal providers like ASW for taxonomy when we can

Posted by loarie over 2 years ago

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