Taxonomic Swap 10052 (Committed on 2015-01-05)

Hebe, along with Chionohebe and Parahebe, were lumped into Veronica to avoid splitting Veronica into a lot of pieces. Each of Hebe, Chionohebe, and Parahebe, are monophyletic, but their presence within the Veronica radiation made it paraphyletic. The most practical (but not always popular) decision was to fold these back into Veronica.

Garnock-Jones, Phil; Albach, Dirk; Briggs, Barbara G. (2007). "Botanical names in Southern Hemisphere Veronica (Plantaginaceae): sect. Detzneria, sect. Hebe, and sect. Labiatoides". Taxon 56 (2): 571–582.

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Added by jon_sullivan on January 5, 2015 12:08 AM | Committed by jon_sullivan on January 5, 2015
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hi Jon - if your intention is to merge all Hebe into Veronica, thats fine, but its a big job. You need to:
1) create analogous Veronica species for each Hebe species
2) swap each descendent of Hebe into its analogous Veronica counterpart
3) only then swap Hebe with Veronica

What you did left all the Hebe's in tact with an inactive parent

also not sure how the inactive Hebe ended up as a descendent of Veronica.

I'm reactivating Hebe until you want to take on the admittedly way to complex job of curating all the Hebe descendants. But please do these steps if you want to take this on to preserve the integrity of the tree

Posted by loarie over 9 years ago

Yes, we've been eyeing up this massive job for some time now. I was wondering how to get all the descendent taxa shifted across. One at a time is going to be a dauntingly big job.

Thanks for the explanation. I was quietly hoping that doing step (3) would cause steps (1) and (2) to happen automatically.

In NatureWatch NZ, the fork, we did a temporary fix of putting Hebe under Veronica in our taxonomic tree. I expect iNat got that with the import.

Posted by jon_sullivan over 9 years ago

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